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 Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their puds over
swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:01 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in
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Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their
puds over swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
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"pulled their puds" = masturbated.
"Swift boats" are (were) a type of miltary watercraft used to patrol the
rivers and close-in coastlines, especially of South Vietnam, during the
Vietnam War. During the last US presidential campaign in 2004, John
Kerry's military record came under attack by a group of veterans who had
served on swift boats.
The gist of the situation was this: Kerry had served in Vietnam for four
months as an officer on a swift boat. During his campaign in 2004, he
used a photo of 20 officers of Coastal Division 11 swift boats (himself
among them,) along with copy that implied that the other officer pictured
supported his bid for the presidency. The organization _Swift Boat
Veterans for Truth_ attempted to get in touch with the men pictured to
verify this claim, and found that of the nineteen men in the picture
beside Kerry himself, two were dead, two were neutral on his suitability
for the presidency, three supported him, and 12 did not support him or
considered him "unfit". The organization sent a cease and desist letter
in early June, requesting that the Kerry campaign cease using that photo,
since it did not accurately represent the opinions of most of the men
pictured as it claimed to, and since the campaign had made no effort to
obtain releases from the men pictured consenting to its use.
From that starting point, the whole thing took off in a glorious display
of everything that is ugly about the American election system, with pro-
Kerry groups accusing the Swift Vets of everything from fabrication to
vendetta to being tools of Bush and the Republicans; and anti-Kerry
groups co-opting the Swift Vets statements and attempting to use those
statements as proof of almost anything they wanted to accuse Kerry of.
If you'd like an idea of what it was like, here's a link to a number of
political cartoons on the subject, from both sides:
<http://www.cagle.com/news/KerrySwiftBoat/main.asp>
There are nine pages; it's worth going through all of them to get an idea
of what exactly it was like. |
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Raymond O'Hara
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| Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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"Steve Hayes" <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN over
swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
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"pulled their puds" is a slang for masturbating.
Generally it's used to show inaction like Nero fiddling while Rome burned. |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 10:06 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:52:21 +0200 (CEST), Barbara Bailey
<rabrabbjb@yayhu.comm> wrote:
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Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cavl64hh45spa613cj02u1oa808hqhhe0p@4ax.com:
Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their
puds over swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
From that starting point, the whole thing took off in a glorious display
of everything that is ugly about the American election system, with pro-
Kerry groups accusing the Swift Vets of everything from fabrication to
vendetta to being tools of Bush and the Republicans; and anti-Kerry
groups co-opting the Swift Vets statements and attempting to use those
statements as proof of almost anything they wanted to accuse Kerry of.
If you'd like an idea of what it was like, here's a link to a number of
political cartoons on the subject, from both sides:
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Thanks. No, I don't want to go into it more deeply than that, just wondered
what they were talking about and your explanation was quite adequate for that.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com
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| Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Jul 2, 11:06 pm, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:52:21 +0200 (CEST), Barbara Bailey
rabrab...@yayhu.comm> wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cavl64hh45spa613cj02u1oa808hqhhe0p@4ax.com:
Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their
puds over swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
From that starting point, the whole thing took off in a glorious display
of everything that is ugly about the American election system, with pro-
Kerry groups accusing the Swift Vets of everything from fabrication to
vendetta to being tools of Bush and the Republicans; and anti-Kerry
groups co-opting the Swift Vets statements and attempting to use those
statements as proof of almost anything they wanted to accuse Kerry of.
If you'd like an idea of what it was like, here's a link to a number of
political cartoons on the subject, from both sides:
Thanks. No, I don't want to go into it more deeply than that, just wondered
what they were talking about and your explanation was quite adequate for that.
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If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
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Jerry Friedman |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:06 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
<jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
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On Jul 2, 11:06 pm, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:52:21 +0200 (CEST), Barbara Bailey
rabrab...@yayhu.comm> wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cavl64hh45spa613cj02u1oa808hqhhe0p@4ax.com:
Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their
puds over swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
From that starting point, the whole thing took off in a glorious display
of everything that is ugly about the American election system, with pro-
Kerry groups accusing the Swift Vets of everything from fabrication to
vendetta to being tools of Bush and the Republicans; and anti-Kerry
groups co-opting the Swift Vets statements and attempting to use those
statements as proof of almost anything they wanted to accuse Kerry of.
If you'd like an idea of what it was like, here's a link to a number of
political cartoons on the subject, from both sides:
Thanks. No, I don't want to go into it more deeply than that, just wondered
what they were talking about and your explanation was quite adequate for that.
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
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Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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tony cooper
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:06:30 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 2, 11:06 pm, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:52:21 +0200 (CEST), Barbara Bailey
rabrab...@yayhu.comm> wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cavl64hh45spa613cj02u1oa808hqhhe0p@4ax.com:
Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their
puds over swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
From that starting point, the whole thing took off in a glorious display
of everything that is ugly about the American election system, with pro-
Kerry groups accusing the Swift Vets of everything from fabrication to
vendetta to being tools of Bush and the Republicans; and anti-Kerry
groups co-opting the Swift Vets statements and attempting to use those
statements as proof of almost anything they wanted to accuse Kerry of.
If you'd like an idea of what it was like, here's a link to a number of
political cartoons on the subject, from both sides:
Thanks. No, I don't want to go into it more deeply than that, just wondered
what they were talking about and your explanation was quite adequate for that.
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
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No, it originates from masturbation just as you thought. However, it
describes masturbation as waste of time that doesn't accomplish
anything.
--
Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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Chuck Riggs
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:09 -0400, tony cooper
<tony_cooper213@earthlink.net> wrote:
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:06:30 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 2, 11:06 pm, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jul 2008 07:52:21 +0200 (CEST), Barbara Bailey
rabrab...@yayhu.comm> wrote:
Steve Hayes <hayesm...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:cavl64hh45spa613cj02u1oa808hqhhe0p@4ax.com:
Seen in another newsgroups:
"mainstream news orgs like The New York Times and CNN pulled their
puds over swift boats"
Does anyone know what it's supposed to mean?
From that starting point, the whole thing took off in a glorious display
of everything that is ugly about the American election system, with pro-
Kerry groups accusing the Swift Vets of everything from fabrication to
vendetta to being tools of Bush and the Republicans; and anti-Kerry
groups co-opting the Swift Vets statements and attempting to use those
statements as proof of almost anything they wanted to accuse Kerry of.
If you'd like an idea of what it was like, here's a link to a number of
political cartoons on the subject, from both sides:
Thanks. No, I don't want to go into it more deeply than that, just wondered
what they were talking about and your explanation was quite adequate for that.
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
No, it originates from masturbation just as you thought. However, it
describes masturbation as waste of time that doesn't accomplish
anything.
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But we know differently, nudge-nudge, wink-wink.
--
Regards,
Chuck Riggs
Near Dublin, Ireland
(My email address, here, is broken) |
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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jerry_friedman@yahoo.com wrote:
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If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
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Oh no it's not. could, would, should, pud.
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the Omrud
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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Steve Hayes wrote:
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:09 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net
wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:06:30 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
No, it originates from masturbation just as you thought. However, it
describes masturbation as waste of time that doesn't accomplish
anything.
Well now you've driven me to get down the Stephen King book where I first saw
the expression to find out why I thought it was pronounced like the "pud" in
"pudding", and it's clear enough:
"She went on pulling Brian's pudding while she spoke. He was moaning now. It
was wrong, he knew that, but it felt good. It felt most sincerely awesome."
From Stephen King, "Needful things", page 89.
So it seems that it is derived from pudding, so why would it be pronounced to
rhyme with "puddle" and not "pudding" when it *is* pudding?
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It isn't, at least not in the Midlands or North West of England.
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David |
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tony cooper
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:19:31 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:09 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net
wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:06:30 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
No, it originates from masturbation just as you thought. However, it
describes masturbation as waste of time that doesn't accomplish
anything.
Well now you've driven me to get down the Stephen King book where I first saw
the expression to find out why I thought it was pronounced like the "pud" in
"pudding", and it's clear enough:
"She went on pulling Brian's pudding while she spoke. He was moaning now. It
was wrong, he knew that, but it felt good. It felt most sincerely awesome."
From Stephen King, "Needful things", page 89.
So it seems that it is derived from pudding, so why would it be pronounced to
rhyme with "puddle" and not "pudding" when it *is* pudding?
Though why a penis would be called "pudding" in the first place beats me.
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Chalk up another line to "Cleverly done, or unconsciously done?"
"Pudding" seems to me to be a reference to the result of masturbation
and not a description of the vehicle of delivery. And, that result
ends up in a puddle, so it goes around in a circle, jerk.
No, I'm not calling you a "jerk". I just couldn't help myself there.
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Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:38:03 GMT, the Omrud <usenet.omrud@gEXPUNGEmail.com>
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Steve Hayes wrote:
So it seems that it is derived from pudding, so why would it be pronounced to
rhyme with "puddle" and not "pudding" when it *is* pudding?
It isn't, at least not in the Midlands or North West of England.
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So is the idiom in use there?
And even if it is, it would make no difference whether it was pronounced like
pudding or puddle.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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Steve Hayes
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:09 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net>
wrote:
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:06:30 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
No, it originates from masturbation just as you thought. However, it
describes masturbation as waste of time that doesn't accomplish
anything.
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Well now you've driven me to get down the Stephen King book where I first saw
the expression to find out why I thought it was pronounced like the "pud" in
"pudding", and it's clear enough:
"She went on pulling Brian's pudding while she spoke. He was moaning now. It
was wrong, he knew that, but it felt good. It felt most sincerely awesome."
From Stephen King, "Needful things", page 89.
So it seems that it is derived from pudding, so why would it be pronounced to
rhyme with "puddle" and not "pudding" when it *is* pudding?
Though why a penis would be called "pudding" in the first place beats me. But
there's no accounting for idioms.
--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:03 am Post subject: Re: Pulled their puds over swift boats |
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Steve Hayes wrote, in <j8jr64hco1guv5p6vk96751b2re9dhhuj2@4ax.com>
on Fri, 04 Jul 2008 09:19:31 +0200:
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On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:44:09 -0400, tony cooper <tony_cooper213@earthlink.net
wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 04:06:30 +0200, Steve Hayes
hayesmstw@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 3 Jul 2008 14:55:49 -0700 (PDT), "jerry_friedman@yahoo.com"
jerry_friedman@yahoo.com> wrote:
If you care, by the way, "pud" is pronounced like the first syllable
of "puddle", not that of "pudding".
Thanks again, I didn't know that.
I assumed that it was derived from pudding I think I first encountered that
usage in a Stephen King novel, where the context made the meaning of the idiom
clear.
In the case of the news item, when I first read it I wondered if it was some
obscure pun on semen/seamen, and pictured all these earnest journalists
standing in line on the jetty, conscientiously masturbating and ejaculating on
to the boats swiftly passing below. It seemed to be a question of timing, and
would have been much easier with slow boats or moored boats.
But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
No, it originates from masturbation just as you thought. However, it
describes masturbation as waste of time that doesn't accomplish
anything.
Well now you've driven me to get down the Stephen King book where I first saw
the expression to find out why I thought it was pronounced like the "pud" in
"pudding", and it's clear enough:
"She went on pulling Brian's pudding while she spoke. He was moaning now. It
was wrong, he knew that, but it felt good. It felt most sincerely awesome."
From Stephen King, "Needful things", page 89.
So it seems that it is derived from pudding, so why would it be pronounced to
rhyme with "puddle" and not "pudding" when it *is* pudding?
Though why a penis would be called "pudding" in the first place beats me. But
there's no accounting for idioms.
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It is a very long time since I heard anyone say it, probably Army days
in the 1950s, but it was as in pudding, or indeed as in pulling, then.
--
Nick Spalding
BrE/IrE |
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But now I wonder: if it doesn't derive from "pudding", where does it come
from.
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I always assumed that It came from "pudenda: The human external genital
organs, especially [but not necessarily] of a woman."
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